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 '''Kiba dachi''' (literally: “middle stance”), is typically called a '''horseback stance''', or '''horse stance''', because it looks as though your are riding an imaginary horse (or doing the [https://youtu.be/otCpCn0l4Wo?t=1m56s M.C. Hammer] slide).
-[[File:BadKiba.png|frame|Kiba dachi, "horseseback stance" or "horse stance." Note that the both the shins and spine are perpendicular to the floor.]]
+[[File:Kiba.png|frame|Kiba dachi, "horseback stance" or "horse stance." Note that the both the shins and spine are perpendicular to the floor.]]
 A horse stance is much like a [[Ready stance|ready stance]], except that your feet are twice as far apart (e.g., two shoulder-widths). ''You must keep your [[Center|center-of-mass]] extremely low in a horse stance, or your stability will be severely compromised.'' Students will often try to escape [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=th02FTIgyM8 the burning] in their thighs either by straightening their legs or by leaning forward -- but they do so at their own peril. Check your stance quality by looking at your shins; your shins should make a 90° angle with respect to the floor, with your toes pointing forward. Some karate styles will point their toes 45° outwards; this is shiko dachi ("square stance"). The debate on which to use is a point of contention within the larger karate community which awaits resolution. Leaning forward is another common mistake, caused by sticking your butt out, as though you were twerking. This can be avoided by keeping the pelvis pushed and rolled forward.

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 '''Kiba dachi''' (literally: “middle stance”), is typically called a '''horseback stance''', or '''horse stance''', because it looks as though your are riding an imaginary horse (or doing the [https://youtu.be/otCpCn0l4Wo?t=1m56s M.C. Hammer] slide).
- [photos of kiba-dachi from the front, and side]
+[[File:BadKiba.png|frame|Kiba dachi, "horseseback stance" or "horse stance." Note that the both the shins and spine are perpendicular to the floor.]]
-A horse stance is much like a [[Ready stance|ready stance]], except that your feet are twice as far apart (e.g., two shoulder-widths). ''Your [[Center|center-of-mass]] must be kept extremely low in a horse stance, or your stability will be severely compromised.'' Students will often try to escape [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=th02FTIgyM8 the burning] in their thighs by straightening their legs, or by leaning forward -- but they do so at their own peril. Stance quality can be easily checked by looking at your shins; your shins should make a 90° angle with respect to the floor, with the toes of both feet pointing forward. Leaning forward is another common mistake, caused by sticking your butt out, as though you were twerking. This can be avoided by keeping the pelvis pushed and rolled forward.
+A horse stance is much like a [[Ready stance|ready stance]], except that your feet are twice as far apart (e.g., two shoulder-widths). ''You must keep your [[Center|center-of-mass]] extremely low in a horse stance, or your stability will be severely compromised.'' Students will often try to escape [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=th02FTIgyM8 the burning] in their thighs either by straightening their legs or by leaning forward -- but they do so at their own peril. Check your stance quality by looking at your shins; your shins should make a 90° angle with respect to the floor, with your toes pointing forward. Some karate styles will point their toes 45° outwards; this is shiko dachi ("square stance"). The debate on which to use is a point of contention within the larger karate community which awaits resolution. Leaning forward is another common mistake, caused by sticking your butt out, as though you were twerking. This can be avoided by keeping the pelvis pushed and rolled forward.
 Just like a [[Ready stance|ready stance]], one commonly enters a horse stance by “snapping” into it with a [[Nami-ashi uke|nami-ashi]].

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 Just like a [[Ready stance|ready stance]], one commonly enters a horse stance by “snapping” into it with a [[Nami-ashi uke|nami-ashi]].
- [photos of incorrect kiba dachi, from the front (high center), and side (leaning)]
+[[File:BadKiba.png|frame|Common mistakes. On the left, the straight legs alleviate the tension, but raise the [[Center|center]]. This "horseback stance" is really a double-wide [[Ready stance|ready stance]], except this version makes maneuvering difficult and exposes the [[Kyūsho#Groin|groin]] to attack. On the right, the pelvis is not being actively pushed forward, creating an intrinsically immobile and unstable position since the shoulders are ''not'' above the hips.]]
 Horse stance can also be used as a [[Fighting_stance|fighting stance]]. The side of the body contains fewer [[Kyūsho|targets]] than the front of the body, so side-facing postures are intrinsically easier to defend. However, the trade-off is that horse stance limits the number of techniques which can be used, and the number of combinations is extremely limited since the rear leg and the rear hand are too far away to land any techniques before an opening disappears. Even if these rear leg and rear hand techniques could land in time, their ranges are significantly compromised. When fighting out of a horse stance, or any side guard position, the rear hand can do little more than act as a "meat shield" to cover your [[Kyūsho#Floating_ribs|floating ribs]].

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-'''Kiba-dachi''' (literally: “middle stance”), is typically called a '''horseback stance''', or '''horse stance''', because it looks as though your are riding an imaginary horse (or doing the [https://youtu.be/otCpCn0l4Wo?t=1m56s M.C. Hammer] slide).
+'''Kiba dachi''' (literally: “middle stance”), is typically called a '''horseback stance''', or '''horse stance''', because it looks as though your are riding an imaginary horse (or doing the [https://youtu.be/otCpCn0l4Wo?t=1m56s M.C. Hammer] slide).
   [photos of kiba-dachi from the front, and side]
-A proper horse stance is much like a [[Ready stance|ready stance]], except that your feet are twice as far apart (e.g., two shoulder widths). ''Your [[Center|center-of-mass]] must be kept extremely low in a horse stance, or your stability will be severely compromised.'' Students will often try to escape [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=th02FTIgyM8 the burning] in their thighs by straightening their legs, or by leaning forward -- but they do so at their own peril. Stance quality can be easily checked by looking at your shins; your shins should make a 90° angle with respect to the floor, with the toes of both feet pointing forward. Leaning forward is another common mistake, caused by sticking your butt out, as though you were twerking. This can be avoided by keeping the pelvis pushed and rolled forward.
+A horse stance is much like a [[Ready stance|ready stance]], except that your feet are twice as far apart (e.g., two shoulder-widths). ''Your [[Center|center-of-mass]] must be kept extremely low in a horse stance, or your stability will be severely compromised.'' Students will often try to escape [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=th02FTIgyM8 the burning] in their thighs by straightening their legs, or by leaning forward -- but they do so at their own peril. Stance quality can be easily checked by looking at your shins; your shins should make a 90° angle with respect to the floor, with the toes of both feet pointing forward. Leaning forward is another common mistake, caused by sticking your butt out, as though you were twerking. This can be avoided by keeping the pelvis pushed and rolled forward.
 Just like a [[Ready stance|ready stance]], one commonly enters a horse stance by “snapping” into it with a [[Nami-ashi uke|nami-ashi]].
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   [photos of incorrect kiba dachi, from the front (high center), and side (leaning)]
-Horse stance can also be used as a [[Fighting_stance|fighting stance]].The side of the body contains fewer [[Kyūsho|targets]] than the front of the body, so side-facing postures are intrinsically easier to defend. However, the trade-off is that horse stance limits the number of techniques which can be used, and the number of combinations is extremely limited since the rear leg and the rear hand are too far away to land any techniques before the opening disappears. Even if these rear leg and hand techniques could land in time, their ranges are significantly compromised. When fighting out of a horse stance, or any side guard position, the rear hand can do little more than act as a "meat shield" to cover your [[Kyūsho#Floating_ribs|floating ribs]].
+Horse stance can also be used as a [[Fighting_stance|fighting stance]]. The side of the body contains fewer [[Kyūsho|targets]] than the front of the body, so side-facing postures are intrinsically easier to defend. However, the trade-off is that horse stance limits the number of techniques which can be used, and the number of combinations is extremely limited since the rear leg and the rear hand are too far away to land any techniques before an opening disappears. Even if these rear leg and rear hand techniques could land in time, their ranges are significantly compromised. When fighting out of a horse stance, or any side guard position, the rear hand can do little more than act as a "meat shield" to cover your [[Kyūsho#Floating_ribs|floating ribs]].
 Although fighting out of horse stance offers greater protection initially, when it fails, it fails catastrophically. Side-facing positions are one [[7-3|sidestep (7-3)]] away from taking control of your back. Fighting out of horse stance is an all-or-nothing tactic, and in general, it is better to keep your options open and fight out of fighting stance.

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 '''Kiba-dachi''' (literally: “middle stance”), is typically called a '''horseback stance''', or '''horse stance''', because it looks as though your are riding an imaginary horse (or doing the [https://youtu.be/otCpCn0l4Wo?t=1m56s M.C. Hammer] slide).
-[photos of kiba-dachi from the front, and side]
+ [photos of kiba-dachi from the front, and side]
 A proper horse stance is much like a [[Ready stance|ready stance]], except that your feet are twice as far apart (e.g., two shoulder widths). ''Your [[Center|center-of-mass]] must be kept extremely low in a horse stance, or your stability will be severely compromised.'' Students will often try to escape [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=th02FTIgyM8 the burning] in their thighs by straightening their legs, or by leaning forward -- but they do so at their own peril. Stance quality can be easily checked by looking at your shins; your shins should make a 90° angle with respect to the floor, with the toes of both feet pointing forward. Leaning forward is another common mistake, caused by sticking your butt out, as though you were twerking. This can be avoided by keeping the pelvis pushed and rolled forward.
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 Just like a [[Ready stance|ready stance]], one commonly enters a horse stance by “snapping” into it with a [[Nami-ashi uke|nami-ashi]].
-[photos of incorrect kiba dachi, from the front (high center), and side (leaning)]
+ [photos of incorrect kiba dachi, from the front (high center), and side (leaning)]
 Horse stance can also be used as a [[Fighting_stance|fighting stance]].The side of the body contains fewer [[Kyūsho|targets]] than the front of the body, so side-facing postures are intrinsically easier to defend. However, the trade-off is that horse stance limits the number of techniques which can be used, and the number of combinations is extremely limited since the rear leg and the rear hand are too far away to land any techniques before the opening disappears. Even if these rear leg and hand techniques could land in time, their ranges are significantly compromised. When fighting out of a horse stance, or any side guard position, the rear hand can do little more than act as a "meat shield" to cover your [[Kyūsho#Floating_ribs|floating ribs]].
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 *Shift into a side-facing horse stance and immediately counter immediately (a 2-step process).
-[video explaining how to shift into side-facing from fighting stance.]
+ [video explaining how to shift into side-facing from fighting stance.]
 Horse stance is also a great leg exercise; have contests with friends, or against your own personal record, to see how long you can maintain this position. (Keep your hands off of your thighs; that’s cheating.)
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 [photos of kiba-dachi from the front, and side]
-A proper horse stance is much like a [[Ready stance|ready stance]], except that your feet are twice as far apart (e.g., two shoulder widths). ''The [[Center|center-of-mass]] must be kept extremely low in horse stance, or your stability will be severely compromised.'' Students will often try to escape the burning in their thighs by straightening their legs, or by leaning forward -- but they do so at their own peril. Stance quality can be easily checked by looking at your shins; your shins should make a 90° angle with respect to the floor, and the toes of both feet should point forward. Leaning forward is typically caused by sticking your butt out, as though you were twerking. This can be avoided by keeping the pelvis pushed forward as far as possible.
+A proper horse stance is much like a [[Ready stance|ready stance]], except that your feet are twice as far apart (e.g., two shoulder widths). ''Your [[Center|center-of-mass]] must be kept extremely low in a horse stance, or your stability will be severely compromised.'' Students will often try to escape [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=th02FTIgyM8 the burning] in their thighs by straightening their legs, or by leaning forward -- but they do so at their own peril. Stance quality can be easily checked by looking at your shins; your shins should make a 90° angle with respect to the floor, with the toes of both feet pointing forward. Leaning forward is typically caused by sticking your butt out, as though you were twerking. This can be avoided by keeping the pelvis pushed forward as far as possible.
-Just like a ready stance, one commonly enters a horse stance by “snapping” into it with a [[Nami-ashi uke|nami-ashi]].
+Just like a [[Ready stance|ready stance]], one commonly enters a horse stance by “snapping” into it with a [[Nami-ashi uke|nami-ashi]].
 [photos of incorrect kiba dachi, from the front (high center), and side (leaning)]
-Horse stance can also be used as a [[Fighting_stance|fighting stance]]. Since the side of the body contains fewer targets than the front of the body, side-facing postures are intrinsically easier to defend. However, the trade-off though is that horse stance limits the number of offensive techniques that can be used, since the rear leg and the rear hand are too far away to land techniques before the opening disappears. Even if the rear leg and hand could land in time, their ranges would be significantly compromised. When fighting out of horse stance, or any side guard position, the rear hand can do little more than act as a meat shield to cover your [[Kyūsho#Floating_ribs|floating ribs]].
+Horse stance can also be used as a [[Fighting_stance|fighting stance]].The side of the body contains fewer [[Kyūsho|targets]] than the front of the body, so side-facing postures are intrinsically easier to defend. However, the trade-off is that horse stance limits the number of techniques which can be used, and the number of combinations is extremely limited since the rear leg and the rear hand are too far away to land any techniques before the opening disappears. Even if these rear leg and hand techniques could land in time, their ranges are significantly compromised. When fighting out of a horse stance, or any side guard position, the rear hand can do little more than act as a "meat shield" to cover your [[Kyūsho#Floating_ribs|floating ribs]].
-Although fighting out of horse stance offers greater protection initially, when it fails, it fails catastrophically. It is much easier for the opponent to take control of your back in any side facing position; since it’s easier to [[7-3|sidestep (7-3)]]. Fighting out of horse stance is an all-or-nothing tactic. In general, it is better to fight out of fighting stance, and keep your options open.
+Although fighting out of horse stance offers greater protection initially, when it fails, it fails catastrophically. Side-facing positions are one [[7-3|sidestep (7-3)]] away from taking control of your back. Fighting out of horse stance is an all-or-nothing tactic, and in general, it is better to keep your options open and fight out of fighting stance.
-However, shifting to horse stance is just one of the many options fighting stance offers. For example, if you are in a fighting stance and the opponent 7-3’s outside, rather than turning, resetting in a new fighting stance, and countering; it may be faster to quickly shift into a side-facing horse stance and counter immediately.
+Shifting into horse stance is just one of the many options fighting stance offers. For example, if you are in a fighting stance and the opponent 7-3’s to the outside, you can:
 [video explaining how to shift into side-facing from fighting stance.]

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−	Kiba-dachi (literally: “middle stance”), is typically called a horseback stance, or horse stance, because it looks as though your are riding an imaginary horse (or doing the [https://youtu.be/otCpCn0l4Wo?t=1m56s M.C. Hammer] slide).	+	'''Kiba-dachi''' (literally: “middle stance”), is typically called a '''horseback stance''', or '''horse stance''', because it looks as though your are riding an imaginary horse (or doing the [https://youtu.be/otCpCn0l4Wo?t=1m56s M.C. Hammer] slide).

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−	Kiba-dachi (literally: “middle stance”), is typically called a horseback stance, or horse stance, because it looks as though your are riding an imaginary horse (or do the [https://youtu.be/otCpCn0l4Wo?t=1m56s M.C. Hammer] slide).	+	Kiba-dachi (literally: “middle stance”), is typically called a horseback stance, or horse stance, because it looks as though your are riding an imaginary horse (or doing the [https://youtu.be/otCpCn0l4Wo?t=1m56s M.C. Hammer] slide).

	[photos of kiba-dachi from the front, and side]		[photos of kiba-dachi from the front, and side]